Nina dithering A astrophotography software. But in preparing to get my first monochrome/dedicated camera this winter I was learning that my Dithering causes a mount to make tiny random movements of only a few pixels, allowing stacking software to compensate for hot and cold pixels in final stacki Dither Settle Pixel Tolerance and Settle Time: these are important parameters that define the successful end of a dither move. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I haven’t been able to find a good answer thus far. But from time to time, I see those timeout messages on one of my mounts which has more backlash in its mechanics. Phd2 handles the guiding and dithering, NINA handles image capture and tells phd2 when to dither in between exposures. Right now I am playing around with taking wide field shots Paramount ME, Sky X and NINA / Dithering - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hello, I have a ME, run Sky X and NINA. If so, it makes a very simple compact system possible (e. To enable PHD2's internal server, go to PHD2's Tools menu and ensure that Enable Server is selected. Settle Pixel Tolerance# In order for N. Nina and phd2 sequence - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Beginner question: I have been guiding with PHD2 but am going to start using NINA to run the camera. instead of SGP - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hey folks, Stefan and I just added a Center after Drift plugin that should provide this automatic recovery without delaying your imaging. Would dithering in RA only turn hot pixels [correction; my fumble; I meant fixed pattern noise] into short lines or dotted lines? I think with the advanced sequencer in NINA you could probably just setup a wait time and send a dithering command every 10 minutes or so. Note I don´t have an autoguide camera/scope to use PHD, I read that is possible to dither using that. Dithering . Its only purpose is to effect a dither directly to the mount when command to via the normal Dither-related I had both my scopes up and running using the latest NINA and I had downloaded the synchronization plug-in. 11). simon. It does not do "guiding" and you must load one of the approved guiders from the dropdown list. NINA won't wait to settle after dither (raised this problem before) - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: This has to be the worst feature of NINA. I then adjusted the Dither Pixels setting in NINA on the Equipment - Guider tab. I don't have any guiding setup and use a 200mm focal length lens with my DSLR on an AVX mount. I have tried many combinations of numbers and the problem is not solved hence my plan to switch Dither Settling Time is how long N. If I dither at 7 pixels in NINA, my imaging camera is actually moving just over 11 pixels. . (When we estimate about 20 seconds per Dithering With PhD2 and Nina [Deep Sky] Acquisition In my case, dithering usually takes some seconds including settling time. 0 Install Ascom 6. Synchronized Dithering: Multiple instances of NINA may work together with a single instance of PHD2 to accomplish synchronized dithering. I get it all the time, and if you're dithering every shot like me and doing long subs, the delay can add up. Vediamo co Hi all,im starting astrophotography,and i was wondering if i should dither if i don’t have a autoguider. dither 4 pixels in NINA. Then tell NINA how you want to dither - and to send the commands to PHD2. Ive been using it for years and it does not wait for the dither to settle. I tried all sorts of numbers and just after 5 seconds it says Settle timeout while my settle time out can by literally any number. to communicate with PHD2 and command operations such as dithering and for receiving guiding telemetry, PHD2's internal server must be enabled. RASA8, SSAG, good cooled camera, enabling auto-alignment, guided imaging integrated with SC). Im using NINA for acquisition and PHD2 for guiding. Clarky2 Advanced Sequencing Sequence Templates#. I have the dither set up in NINA and after it performs the dither, either the RA or DEC or both starts climbing away from zero as if they get stuck. Set camera to cool 2) Go to PHD2 (which opened when I connected guider in NINA) and run calibration and GA in there. - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: When shooting a target through various filters, wether LRGB or SHO, I find that, at least in my setup, dithering has a considerable impact on overhead. However, neither instance gave me the option in the NINA guiding When you have a side by side rig on one mount, it becomes hard to dither! Dithering one of the telescopes may affect the second telescope after all NINA has the I thought guiding continues during a dither (maybe I missed the switch) as PHD2 does the dither. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy NINA PHD2 Times Out, while PHD2 Quickly Starts Guiding - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: This seems odd to me - after dithering PHD2 quickly returns to Guiding status, but NINA will not know that and will give me the timeout messages and then begin an exposure. Star Adventurer GTi Dithering - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hello Like the title says, I want to know if its possible to dither on this mount that I got a couple a days ago. Basic setup: NINA, Mach2, Dec Arc Model, Direct Guider, Dither every frameAssuming NINA isn't dithering in an exposure, what type of telescope are you using? Is it possible something in the optical train shifted?-Ray You just configure NINA to do dithering via phd2 and specify the dither amount and settling tolerance (I'm not sure what good settings are and they would require some experimentation) and activate guiding in the ssag - then begin the imaging sequence in NINA, including dithering. However when I try it the primary scope dithers without waiting for the secondary scope to finish a subframe. Is there a way to have NINA control NINA, Dither, & Short Subs - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I currently use DSLR + Backyard Nikon, and had in the past set my exposures longer (1-3 minutes) based on histogram only. Are you planning to support dithering via CPWI for the Celestron StarSense Autoguider? Some applications, such as NINA appear to be going that way. rotate events to minimize dither. I have a ZWO 120mm Mini w/ WO 32mm Uniguider scope, and I cannot get them to work with NINA either. I have the dither set for 5. Mount slews from the park position, plate solves, adjusts and then gets on with the In the SAM consol app there is a setting for automatic dithering, but it requires a dithering range. It was developed by a group of amateur astronomers with the goal of creating a comprehensive and user-friendly software package that could be used for all aspects of astrophotography, Center After Drift in NINA plate solve fails - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi all, I love NINA and, with all the things that can go wrong, I only have one issue. Instanzen Astrophotography dithering techniques will help you to achieve sharper noise-free images. I am not seeing any detrimental effects of this times out (assuming the PHD2 actually can start Page 1 of 2 - Why does dithering killing my guiding? :*( - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Ive been struggling for a while now, that dithering destroys my guiding for far longer than it should. 2022-08-31T03:59:47. I have a couple different setups and am trying to workout the guiding and dither settings for them. CS, Jeff Got it, thanks. CMOS and CCD sensors suffer from various types of electronic noise, such as fixed-pattern noise, and defects such hot and cold pixe Start off with a small scale dither and make sure PHD can recover within the allotted settle time. 2 Telescopes, 1 Computer & NINA - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Hi, Im seeking some help with a dual SkyWatcher Esprit 100ED setup. I use the advanced sequencer and want to run the Center After Drift procedure in NINA. In this video I go through how I am running the two scopes with two instances of NINA and show ho Dithering with a DSLR and Star Tracker . When using an intervalometer I typically allow 15 seconds between shots to give the sensor I can get a link between Metaguide and NINA but I can't get Metaguide to respond to the Synchronized Dither command sent by NINA Dithering does not work between Metagiide and NINA . This is very unlikely to be the same. This plugin draws heavy inspiration from Tom Palmer's Target Scheduler plugin and shares a number of similar features. cs|ShouldTrigger|261|Meridian Flip - There is still time remaining - max remaining time 00:15:07, next instruction time 120, next instruction Category: Camera, Item: TakeExposure, ExposureTime 120, Gain 100, Offset 250, ImageType Here is one of the dither events zoomed in and with corrections enabled Next time I get a chance to try I will push the settle time much further and see if that helps. Refer to Dithering in Advanced documentation topics for more information about Dithering and how to set the above parameters. To NINA Dithering Introducing Really Bad Walking Noise - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I love NINA. APT: meridan flips & unguided dithering - posted in Astronomy Software & Computers: Hi all, Im pretty much of a newbie here, so I hope Im posting where I should Im an APT user who recently learned about NINA. I don’t have guiding yet in my setup, so been relying on the Direct Guider for dithering. Im curious though whether Im supposed to start/stop guiding with the direct Coordinated Dithering with No Guiding in NINA - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: I have completed tuning and re-greasing my five year old AP 1600 mount. 45"/px (guiding), ie. Offline Sky Map Cache (3. I am doing a very large dither using NINA's direct guider. When PHD performs a dither, it doesn't move the mount instantly. https://skywatcher. The interesting thing is that it doesn’t Yes, PHD will only dither (and acknowledge to NINA that it is doing so) while it is guiding. I thought guiding continues during a dither (maybe I missed the switch) as PHD2 does the dither. This is with NINA and PHD2 on my mini-pc, but I'd guess that the SA and ASI Air would take a similar amount of time? same direction/axis. Ive configured NINA in equipment to use the direct guider. Guider Pixel Scale: 4. NINA nightly v2 #49, PHD2, ASCOM, latest StarGO). Lots of good info there. I dont have an issue since my guide results have been very good but as I read these articles, I dont see where I can makde adjustments to settling time while dithering in PHD2. I don't have a guide cam so I connected to NINA's direct guider, set the dithering to 50px (under guiding settings) and set it to dither every frame. Ask questions, share your photos, make suggestions, and help other users. Edited by Paulo Gordinho, 12 May This guide will walk you through the process of using NINA with a Paramount MX+ and TheSkyX to control the mount. This topic has come up a few times before but either Ive misunderstood the answers or just cant get it to work. Yes, I get the niggling timout message as well. As you are not using a guidescope, you've been using NINA's The number of pixels to dither is specific to your combination of primary camera and guide camera. 5 pixels and the settle tolerance set to 2 pixels. My kit consists of 2x SW Esprit 100 ED, 2x QHY 268M CAMERAS, Different profiles in NINA - posted in Astronomy Software & Computers: How everyone. My scope and main camera have an scale of 3. For what it is worth, if you go to Options>Imaging then you will find a reset layout button at the bottom right. When it comes to dithering, I understand that the more In this video I take you through the step to connect the Star Adventurer GTI with N. Previously the auto update was always just looking for released versions. Problem is during dither, I often get one of the following message in NINA: 1. If I want to cancel out this walking noise, what range should I use? settle and continue guiding is about 30s. So my plan was to calibrate my celestron mount, run a phd2 calibration, slew to my target and then boot the nina software and begin my sequence of images and dithering with Nina ? Just trying I see the spike on a dither with my HEQ5 with belt mod. The two instances can also talk to each other to synchronize dithering (when an exposure on one camera ends, and a dither is due, it will wait until the exposure on the other camera ends, do the dither, settle, then start both cameras exposing again). However, the synchronised PHD dithering only works with nina 1. Issues with dithering and settling - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi guys, I am having some issues with dithering and mount settling that are creating a little bump and streak on the image following the dithering. A. 5px, settle timeout to 30 sec, guiding start timeout to 60 sec, and minimum settle time to 5 sec. 's Discord chat server is a great way to chat with the creator Stefan Berg the N. I have never tried running a side by side rig before so its all new to me. Posts: 895;. Tech@ZWO. Works perfectly so far. Reading the docs, it may have all the features Im looking for but Im not sure. Attached is a screen shot of my scenario. But while imaging over the last two days, I Problem 5: Dithering will be necessary and in this example we have chosen to dither after 4 exposures. Can set tracking – allows NINA to start/stop tracking; Mount can be parked – Allows NINA to send parking command in the post imaging sequence; Slew start delay – is checked by default mostly because of cameras, I’m just leaving it default. RZM Video Tutorial in Italiano sull'uso di Nighttime Imaging 'N' Astronomy (NINA), un software gratuito per la gestione di un setup di Astrofotografia. No crashes. I left mode to random and rise the scale up to 5. Even though you aren't using PHD2 to guide - CPWI should catch the dither commands and cause the SSAG to dither. NINA then starts, pauses and resumes guiding as and when necessary. You have to set up the mount and guide camera profile in PHD2 (and perhaps you have). Getting Help or Helping Out#. However, dithering during a sequence caused problems. 07/pix - My guiding scale is 2. 3GB) – a cache of images to be able to display images of the complete sky during offline framing. Cheers, Chris. In all that time, I have seen drift only a couple of times, and the root cause always came back to my tracking NINA Flexure correction With Dithering - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Anyone care to weigh in on the proper settings for using dithering and flexure correction in NINA. Dither in RA only? - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Is it sufficient to dither in RA only? Ive been having a problem with dec taking a long time to settle after a dither, probably due to the mounts large dec backlash or related peculiarities. One notable observation was my guide star SNR was very low , only 12 to 15 Multiple Cameras and NINA - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I know Ive seen this somewhere before, but I thought Id ask here. 8 release. 1 Find target in Stellarium and import in to NINA framing assistant 2 Set up the framing and Mosaic as required 3 Click on 'Replace as sequence' button 4 Go to sequence tab and set up exposures, dithering, tracking etc 5 Hit the go button! Works like a charm. In other words, nina N. NINA, PHD2 (auto-guiding software), APT (Astrophotography Tool), The problem is, that two ASIAIR computers can't sync themselves when it comes to Dithering. Dithering during sequencing; MGEN-3 support will appear in a future release; QHYCCD for providing a QHY183M and CFW3 filter wheel to test and verify NINA’s native QHY camera and filter wheel drivers; These N. These plates are generated from hips2fits a service provided by the CDS Aladin Sky Atlas using the DSS/STScI survey. 48/pix I currently have my phd2 pixel dither in NINA set to 5 Dithering Problem with NINA & PHD2 - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi, I am a beginner and I just finished my first session of imaging M31, I use NINA and PHD2 for guiding. I do not use PHD2. I run a dual rig with an OAG on the master scope, and I operate the slave camera and focuser on a second instance of NINA. It works by your first instance of nina acting as the server and the second piggyback instance of nina as a slave. Hi, I’m Sascha Wyss from Switzerland. Dithering with Starsense Autoguider - posted in Celestron Computerized Telescopes: Hi everyone, I recently purchased the star sense autoguider for my C8 Edge HD and I normally use NINA as acquisition software. I. I set to dither every 2 frames, with each frame is 60s exposure. N. For more information about dithering, visit the dedicated page about it. NINA sometimes doesn't wait for slewing to finish. will wait after triggering a dither to resume imaging. I have the logs, NINA sequencer setup, etc. What shoul NINA developer Stanley Dimant has produced a video which details and explains the many new features and refinements which will debut with the upcoming 1. will keep configuration requirements to the minimum and will assist you through the process of imaging. Paulo Gordinho. Dithering is not costless, it's a tax on exposure time and there's a tradeoff of losing SNR to either insufficient or excessive dithering. Nina is talking to the camera It can. I'm not sure if NINA also can turn guiding on/off in the ssag. Learn How to Reduce Pixelation and Improve Image Quality. com/download/software/ NIGHTTIME IMAGING 'N' ASTRONOMY⬇️⬇️⬇️ Description ⬇️⬇️⬇️Vous me l'avez tellement réclamé, voici un soirée test avec le logiciel NINA. I love Metaguide and it will be a pleasure to see it working fully with NINA . Does anyone know how to save my profile and loaded next time. I currently am using an HEQ5 and a Canon DSLR but don’t have a guide scope or cam. To research past questions, bug reports, or file your own bug report or question, please use the Issue Tracker. I'm Page 1 of 2 - how to settle effectively after dithering - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Hi guys, I have been trying to adjust my dithering settings so that I settle after dithering effectively before resuming the next exposure, but I just cant come up with the right combo that will allow me to do that. You will need to set the dither parameters somehow. When creating a new sequence item via Framing or when just adding a new target from anywhere in the application the default values of a Sequence will most likely not be satisfactory for a user. I have read there are areas in SGP or Dithering With TSX - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi All, I have been setting up a new rig more suited for astrophotography and am trying to settle on software packages that can handle the data acquisition so that I can marry the hardware and software together with todays advancements. May not put you back yo where you were but it will put everything back so you can start again 🙂 Settling Time in PHD2 - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I have been reading a bit about settling time during dithering while guiding. When guiding is already started, no action will be taken. I have some basic questions, but suggest questions I should be asking if It helps get the point across. I recently purchased a second SW Esprit 100ED to speed up my data acquisition. If "Dither RA only" is checked, the dither movements will only be performed in RA. I've posted this query on the Discord NINA forum but maybe the folks on SGL can help me out. I have different setups that I use in AP, I am having problems when I switch from one rig to another in NINA . RA and DEC were not orthogonal. Reply reply If you don’t use a Tpoint model, you can uncheck that. As I set dither to random in PHD2, the size of the spike does vary a little. Short focal length (500mm) so I asked for 5 pixel dither. Thanks to Linwood for being the early tester. I understand if it is one rig it will save it automatically, but I I use a different scope , it keeps the Nina and DSLR - posted in DSLR, Mirrorless & General-Purpose Digital Camera DSO Imaging: I am looking for anyone with experience using NINA, a dslr, and PHD2. 1 and after I didn't find any guide settings tab in, made settings in PHD2. This differs from PHD2 which tells N. It has to have a guide star locked in order to know how far to move the scope to dither. I use ASTAP plate solving and never have an issue with a plate solve for initially getting the target and doing the I’ve recently been trying out NINA with my setup and it’s been a learning curve. I have a Paramount MX that is controlled through TSX A plugin for NINA that dynamically selects an optimal target for imaging, allowing for unattended, multi-night, multi-target automated imaging. Restore Guiding# This trigger will start guiding each time after an instruction inside its context. So let's do it, by setting Dither every # to 0 for all Smart Exposures and instead add a Dither Instruction after the last Smart Exposure ! NINA, 10 Micron and Direct Guider (for dithering) - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hello. The second is just along for the ride. Hope that helps - I’ve heard plenty of people say that RA only dithering works well, the only way to know if it’s going to work for you is to try it. Dithering is an important part of the modern image acquisition process. Anyone else having success with this functionality? You use the Direct Guider device in NINA instead of PHD2. As you increase the Dither Pixels to 3, 4 etc the DEC Dither movement get much much greater as I would expect and the recovery time gets much longer! Table of contents EQ Mounts and NINA Gear in Guide Install ASCOM Suite Install . I have NINA configured to dither after each image. contributors and fellow users. Examples: Dither=1, LRGBLRGBLRGBLLL: LRGBdLRGBdLRGBdLdLdL; Dither=2, LRGBLRGBLRGBLLL: LRGBLRGBdLRGBLdLL; Dither=3, LRGBLRGBLRGBLLL: LRGBLRGBLRGBdLLL nina N. If I don’t dither the guiding is fine and just sticks at around 1 arc second Part 3 of setting up the side by side dual telescope setup. I don't use Nina, so I can't help with that, but if theres options try some spiral dithering. Decided to use NINA 2. I would just boresight the piggybacked camera while the other camera, via one instance of NINA, would do the aiming, framing, etc. 67"/px, so I'm dithering 8-9px. As you increase the Dither Pixels to 3, 4 etc the DEC Dither movement get much much greater as I would expect and the recovery time gets much longer! When I started with NINA I messed up my imaging tab. There are numerous tutorials online for setting up PHD2. Astromart. The N. How do you perform coordinated dithering in NINA without NINA - phd2 dither settling tolerance - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi guys, I am trying to tighten my imaging settings and determining the dither settling tolerance in NINA is something that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around. If you have a way to set nina up to recenter the image every so often, that would help as well. when guiding has settled after dithering. Link to comment The dither commands look like they should be coming from NINA, and the NINA docs indicate you should enable dither in the sequence. Than you very much . We cover image scale and dither scale along with som All you need to do in NINA is to tell it in the guiding tab how many pixels you like to dither and how often. My dithering was abnormal the other night , guiding was Ok around 0. What am I missing here? I also had issues while trying to plate solve. When a dither is initiated by PHD2 a random move of the mount in RA/DEC is issued, the maximum amount of Setting interval/dithering time between frames in NINA - posted in Astronomy Software & Computers: So the other night, I had my first full run through while auto-guiding and controlling my DSLR via a PC through NINA. However, DS is designed for the more advanced user who is looking for more control over their sequencer. The existing NINA Synchronization plugin provides support for multiple OTAs/cameras on a single mount with a single guider. Think i can see the amount of backlash and let PHD2 take care of it. Welcome to my channel dedicated to start your journey into Astrophotography as well as reviews of equipment and software Jeffery Richards: Jerry, I didn't think NINA had it's own guider functionality. My question is can I dither without any guiding? Will it get rid of my walking noise? What can I actually use NINA for? I'm trying to learn NINA advanced sequencer and adding a dither after a sequence of exposures with different filters and then loop back to the beginning of the sequence of exposures with different filters after the dither is finished. 10 Micron 1000HPS, NINA. Dithering was set at 2 pixels. NINA synchronized dither value - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Hi forks! Ive just set up 2 telescopes side by side on a mount. Right now I am probably throwing away close to 30% of frames due to this issue so I really have to sort it out. Although it is not necessary to use a Paramount mount with TheSkyX, we will cover the setup generically Controlling the Benro Polaris with NINA is an absolute game-changer. And for the slave, other than the camera, do I dithering in nina? - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi all been doing this for a while and never used dithering(doh) using nina and phd2 ,where is dithering set nina/phd2 or both and any recommended settings/equations thanks SkyGuider Pro - Dithering, PHD2, and NINA - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Lots of SkyGuider Pro questions lately, so I thought I might add my own Actually, I did not see an answer to my question exactly, so want to get clarification. In order for N. You'll likely need to tune this based on how your mount We would only need to dither when each set of LRGB is passed. 1 guider pixel = 0. Thanks, Peter Increase the settle amount in NINA. Please help. 98 arcsec/px I am thinking that PHD2 is not connected to the system somehow. A setting of 10 pixels in NINA tells PHD2 to move the GUIDE camera 10 pixels. Changed dithering from random to spiral Changed RA algorithm to the default Hysteresis from PPEC. 5px. Just before dawn, I reset the RA from Hysteresis back to PPEC. Acquisition software is NINA, connecting to things via ASCOM. You can always adjust it to suit. Dithering takes up quite a bit of imaging time. Since I don’t have guiding, my target often drifts and even though I either every frame, I end up with walking noise. Failed third night, second object: Stopped tracking 11!!! minutes before meridian. Enable tracking offsets – Allows changes to the tracking rate to I have read a little bit about NINA and have had it recommend to me. It works by doing a platesolve in the background every N images (configurable), It looks like the dithering routine you used only moved in one direction and constantly in the same direction. NINA. I saw a lot of links a few years ago asking if there’s dither software to drive the mount . I have effectively gone from 3 arc-sec of PE to just about ZERO PE with an inverted PE curve. I use an svbony 60mm ($80), asi290mm mini ($330). About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Using a DSLR with NINA - posted in DSLR, Mirrorless & General-Purpose Digital Camera DSO Imaging: Just getting NINA all set up and was doing some trial shots using the software. so I have setup sequence in NINA to dither every 2 subs , but the sequence runs each filter twice first and dithers after, so it saves a bit of time. If I were to dither, say, every 3 frames, I could considerably minimise dithering (three or four times less) if I rotated through I often hear how intimidating the advanced sequencer in NINA is. I want to use the NINA synchronised dithering, can someone please tell me what is the value of After exposures mean? I want dithering after every 10 mins frame, sync on both scope. Can I still use NINA to sequence my lights and add dithering? How about plate solving/slewing and polar alignment? Appreciate any insight. 24 arcsec/pixel on imaging system) just shy of the imaging system resolution to produce round stars. My dithering range is set to 5 pixels in NINA (albeit I am not exactly sure how it is calculating this), and my gear which is involved in this whole process is listed as follows: SWSA 2i, ASI120MM mini, and Canon 700D. - My imaging scale is 1. for anyone willing to help me figure this out. No physical guider. Could you consider implementing There are many of us that would, even if we’ve not expressed it out loud, just given up on ASIair and used NINA sync dither instead. This you can even see in the PHD2 graph. En esta tercera entrega de los tutoriales de NINA, repasamos la técnica de Dithering para mejorar la relación señal/ruido. Hopefully future is soon - it’s not complicated to implement. Last night I ran into a guiding issue with NINA (using all the latest software, i. 3) Back to NINA to set target, framing, sequence and start capture. I guide using Sky X, NINA for camera, QHY 533C, control and Sky X for mount control and guiding. My main concern is why the overshoot in RA. After that it just timed out after 180s. com is the leading portal for astronomy news, classified ads and telescope reviews. Look at what your RMS is and set it to say 2x that and see how you go. The primary controls the mount, guiding and dithers. The 3 star polar alignement is awesome, I can shoot from my south facing balcony without even seeing Polaris, it would probably be a good investment to add a small guiding system to your setup. I autoguider with dithering on my star adventurer. Distribution permission granted by the Space Telescope Science Institute. But after another calibration this problem vanished. I cant find an option on the SynScan Pro app like in the SA console as I used on SA2i. When setting up a sequence, I cant seem to find a setting for delay between exposures. 4 sp1 Install EQMOD Mount Drivers & Software Install N. One can spend many, many hours and much money on guiding in order to be able to dither. In NINA sequencer I set dithering after each frame. Using 4 sec exposures on PHD2 so allowed 30 sec settle time. Tip. I’m trying to learn about NINA capabilities for my rig mainly to introduce dithering and better slewing/plate solving. N. For this example run it will take 80 Dithers. One thing I noticed after working with it for a couple hours is that NINA will take upwards of around 30-40 seconds to finish its dithering sequence NINA and PHD2 Connection (Guider) - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: PHD2 connects to the guide camera, not NINA - NINA issues dithering commands. (Nighttime Imaging ‘N’ Astronomy) is a free and open-source software program for astrophotography and astronomy data acquisition running on Microsoft Windows. Ich glaub ich seh doppelt? - Heute werden viele Photonen gesammelt! Denn ich habe das synchronisierte Dithern (synchronized dither) mit 2 N. If the dither setting is N, a dither will be added before the N+1 th occurrence of a filter. 4 and when I did get clear skies I had already updated the app to v1. It loads with NINA, (as it's built-in) but does not guide. According to Cloudy Nights there is an undocumented facility for this in NINA - using the Direct Mount Guider instead of PHD2. First, I’ve Page 1 of 2 - dithering randomly breaks guiding - no idea why - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hello! I did read a few other threads, found no solutions, so there it is: Mount is iOptron 40CEM with an iGuider Scope is 800mm f4 newt, with coma corrector and a DSLR (Canon 250d / SL3) on top. If dithering is performed every 2 exposures, what is the ideal number for the After Exposures tab. Veremos en qué consiste conceptual Misc. simon Sorry for the confusion; this should have been: Dec mode is set to OFF and RA only is turned on. Présentation, utilis Then at the advice of bendgrampie above, I read through the NINA Dithering section in the NINA manual. SGPro, unguided dither and NINA - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi all, I have a 10micron GM1000HPS that has been working out great but have never really quite figured out how to get dither to work in SGPro. You are effectively running two captures but will need to synchronize the two instances so the dither doesn't ruin the secondary camera. let's go capture some nice astrophotos!#astrophotography In NINA with a Dither Pixels of 1 or maybe 2px the DEC backlash / Dithering is somewhat controlled. I personally switched off dithering as it just won’t settle, unfortunately I didn’t get the opportunity to try in v1. You can also do just fine with an asi120mm mini, it's a little cheaper. Some simple questions about guiding/dithering. Trying to find some software to trigger the camera. I read that Sky X will dither but only if you control the imaging camera in Sky X. The strange thing is that I'm supposed to be dithering with NINA. 5. The free way is to use nina and the paid way is Voyager. Page 58 of 64 - First time trying out N. 5px and Page 1 of 2 - Unguided dithering: current state of hobby - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: A few years ago dithering was and probably still a great way to improve DSLR images. This is my configuration for guiding in NINA and PHD2: Dithering: 5px with a scale of 6. And yes the next time i will do the guiding assistant and adopt the recommendations. 5/2. It simply NINA developers have just released a synchronized dithering plug in. Dither causing guiding errors - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Im wondering if some of you more advance imagers could give me your thoughts on this. 5 arcsec In setting the NINA dither settle pixel tolerance - Am I correct in setting this to a guider pixel value (0. 10 and not the latest beta version (1. Known limitations: Dithering will happen every possible synchronized frame and is not changeable; Auto-Update Channels. Be it for beginners or for advanced astrophotographers, N. With the Mach2, I dither every images for longer sub exposures (3 - 10 min) and less frequent for shorter ones. After the first dither completed successfully, I let the plan run all night. I run a three scope array on the mount. You run two instances of NINA, hook each one up to the camera you want to control. Today we're looking at the sequencer in NINA, its options, and how to use it. At first I had problems calibrating PHD2. g. I have been guiding with PHD2 but triggering my Sony with an intervalometer and using manual dither tab in PHD2. I changed my dither movement to 7, my settle pixel tolerance to 1. Lets say I want to run a widefield camera using a piggyback mount on my telescope. Back to top #11 Chaser of Photons Chaser of Photons. I changed it to 0. Changed DEC algorithm to the default Resist Switch from Hysteresis. Approachable. Plate Solving: Use one of several plate-solving software packages to plate-solve images for accurate weird fixed noise pattern after dithering - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi all, I went out last night and decided to get some very quick integration time on M33. Direct Guider is there just for the purpose of allowing NINA to directly do dithering using the main camera. Not only that, but guiding I have not done the rigorous testing you describe here, but I have done many hundreds of unguided sessions with tens of thousands of subs, all dithering after every exposure. e. A Configure Com Ports in Windows Install ASTAP Install Star Catalog Install NINA Configure NINA Configure EQAscom Configure EQMOD Allow Site writes Set up Pulse Guiding (should be Guiding and Dithering - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hi Folks. CEM60EC mount, PHD2 guiding, NINA control and acquisition. No polar-alignment, no worries!The driver: https://github. Many sensors produce fixed pattern noise, which can include hot Guiding, dithering, and absolute encoders - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: I’ve acquired a used AP with Absolute Encoders and I’m trying to learn the control relationship between guiding, dithering and using absolute encoders. I know that you want to stick with your particular software but the only way I know of to dither without guiding is with NINA, which is free software. When NINA plate solves, it uses my main camera for that. The resultant move in pixels for your PRIMARY camera is what you want to move by 10 pixels (per NINA recommendations, anyway). com/ogecko/alpaca-benro-polar Page 1 of 7 - Dithering: how many pixels - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Hope it´s ok to ask something that kind of has been brought up before, but I haveńt been able to find a specific answer. YMMV. So I checked my settings and the settle pixel tolerance was 1. Confused about how that happens. Place your astronomy ads, read the latest news articles and check out the current reviews of newest telescopes and equipment. It didn't give me any errors and yet I cannot see any dithering when checking through all the frames, only drift. It does so much so well, and keeps everything in one convenient app. Synchronized PHD2 Guider will synchronize your Dither requests between multiple instances of N. , 32"/px. - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: I just noticed that it seemed like NINA wasnt stopping for very long during a sequence, when dithering, and it made me a little bit suspicious. I usually would dither every frame (or every other frame cant remember). My sequence uses smart exposure with dithering which appears to work after doing this. NINA Direct Guider Help - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: Hello! I dont have the money right now to buy a guiding system, so Ive been looking for alternatives to help dither my images. 46 arcsec/ pixel) that translates to a value ( 1. It does this by setting up communications between two or more running instances of NINA and then synchronizing some activities via custom instructions in each sequence. It only stopped for maybe a second, or less. 70 with no spurious Ra or Dec spikes , fairly stable , but dithering was super aggressive both in Dec and Ra. NET 3. Synchronization . I wasn't using sequences, but the logs I looked at for my mount clearly indicate that phd2 is dithering during calibration. I have loaded it and tonight may be my first try with a three scope array. I would like to activate dithering but I dont understand whether within CPWI I have to select the PH2D choice and whether in NINA I have So I was looking at it, and nina can be used for dithering without a guide camera It only has one moving axis, and dithering in only one direction is going to create walking noise in your stacked image that will be very difficult to process out. Im bothered by the APT automated meridian flips. So here it is: 1. The time dithering worked it didn't take long till it said dithering finished(i think within 60s). Dithering is a special process that should allow you to fix some annoying problems in your astro images. And yes, with a blank page and a boatload of instructions, it can be overwhelming. usual total RMS is 0. I saw many people moving 15-30px in the main camera but I think mine is just fine to fix de fixed pattern noise of the ASI183, which is quite low. You just need a guidescope, camera, phd2, and NINA. 60 to 0. The Scheduler instruction can optionally schedule dithering for you. NINA developers have just released a synchronized dithering plug in. I usually dither by something like 5 pixels. Hopefully you understand the proper way to derive dither settings and put them into NINA, otherwise you are going to have a difficult time. 1) Start Nina, connect camera, filter wheel, focuser, scope and guiding. Look for the synchronized dither plugin for nina. Viking 1. I'm trying to get synchronised dithering to work. I know NINA has a direct guide option, but every time I have it set to dither, nothing happens (in the morning I still get the same walking noise). I know you can synchronise the dithering operation on two instances of NINA, I'm running a dual rig unguided - so don't use PHD2. I will be visiting my sister and wanted to do some imaging, but my choices are an Alt-Az Nexstar mount or a SkyGuider In NINA with a Dither Pixels of 1 or maybe 2px the DEC backlash / Dithering is somewhat controlled. 0260|INFO|MeridianFlipTrigger. 's New Synchronized Dithering - posted in Experienced Deep Sky Imaging: Hello folks, For me synchronized dithering is one of the last challenges to running an array scope setup. I have read a few posts about that and some guys said that i don’t need to dither if i don’t use a autoguider,some said that i should use APT dithering or NINA’s direct guider device. Dither After Exposures# Using this trigger will initiate a dither operation after the set amount of exposures. On random dithers, the declination tracking is, I assume, Anyway after a couple of hours doing cabels, alighments, connections and focusing I was able to start shooting. From the new Framing Assistant and Flat Wizard to direct PHD2 management and synchronized dithering between multiple instances of NINA, Stanley explains how they work and In-depth tutorials and set-up videos of NINA to understand its more advanced features and get the most out of NINA. Guiding can be disabled during a slew, but a dither is not a slew. Thank you. Warning - timed-out waiting for guider to NINA vs. I adjusted Dither Pixels to give a "Camera Dither Pixels" value of 10, as recommended in the NINA manual. It was developed by a group of amateur astronomers with the goal of creating a comprehensive and user-friendly software package that could be used for all aspects of astrophotography, The only issue I have is that my guiding goes wrong when I attempt to dither. - posted in Beginning Deep Sky Imaging: So I see this quite a lot with NINA, mostly when using the Framing Assistant, where NINA will immediately start trying to plate solve the image before the mount even slews to the target, Ive gotten so used to it now that its expected behaviour, and so I just cancel the first This video really covers in detail what goes into setting up dithering properly in your image sessions. fvtfy rjehr knn lkhofu mld ygjq imtfk cxa flfc tljnd